(Yes, this makes a small selection of Talents into pretty much crap. Solution: tell your players they don't have to pick 'em if they don't like 'em.) it's probably not much work to imply rewrite them as it comes up to fill holes later, i'm a fan of filling holes after all, and i'm pretty confident ...

i think this is actually a very good idea- as you're spot on about the heightened importance of weapon skill and making STR a requirement for players who want to deal heavy blows means that players have to choose between their skills on a very real level. i do have a few questions though: firstly is...

as far as potential game changers perfect pitch is one of the niggling ones, being as it's theoretically available at the start (and has already caused a small argument in one of the two games i've volunteered to assist-rules sort for) second sight ended up being one as the player essentially forced...

no i think it's a good question to ask here. and honestly i don't know there is. leveling is in a weird state for 4th, since you're explicitly given permission to bypass every requirement and restriction if you can get the GM to agree to it which leaves the grimore in a strange abribrary position. i...

Or is it more a sign that magic is weak at lower XP levels but you fear it might become too powerful once 2,000+ XP are earned and spent? Which is sort of what Orin was also saying (if this time I interpreted his words correctly). specifically, my opinion is that 4th ed. magic's problem is the over...

their approach to the grimore is a small concession to allow the GM to avoid the player taking spells they may not want to simply hand them right off the bat. it's an inelegant approach and a little shakey, but at this point i doubt they were thinking they needed better. Past the grimore he has to d...

i need to stop assuming people understand when i let the context sit implied, it's a bad and honestly dumb habit of mine. i meant that a wizard can't use all their spells in normal gameplay without either being made useless by building the requisite CN (and therefore taking so long that the combat i...

So... it’s been a while since my first post. Has anyone come up with a reasonably simple and effective way to fix magic? It’s not just a matter of mages being weak. The current rules force a mage to focus on depth instead of breadth, to be able to survive. The result being mages that are, perhaps, ...

i honestly always ignored the imperial calendar, as i assumed very few people were literate enough to track these things in a chart as opposed to "Feeling" the right time for harvests and such and the listed calendar was the domain of out of touch academics that stupidly think "well, we can just mak...

again, there's certainly room for talents doing the same thing different ways, i simply feel that ir risks entering "use dual wield only if you can't afford a smith to make your weapon of choice with the fast talent" which is a poor direction to take it and the appeal should be the focus. I could b...

okay, after some consideration i fully agree that i've written the trait with too much oomph in the name of ensuring it does what i need it to do. given the way 4th works i don't intend to apply restrictions on how you use your attacks as i want the option of attacking (and therefore engaging) more ...

Zapp's version is also a more complex riposte talent that doesn't require a fast weapon. Which is fine, but kind of redundant. that said, it is a bit hard to parse what the riposte talent does.

Forewarning: i was a participant in one of those rare groups where the adventurers would be periodically transferred over to warhammer fantasy battles as part of a game or three, so my experience is flavored by the requirement that dual-wielding needed to be cohesive with the tabletop. the whole thi...

I feel we need a better way to rule what happens when someone is using a shield to oppose a ranged attack. Let me know your thoughts! I would simply allow the character to choose whether to use this property of the shield. If your skill is effectively lower than 50%, simply don't make the Test into...

In all honestly, my plan for dealing with shields was making parry a separate matter from melee skills entirely making the off-hand penalty moot and avoid the way WS is so overpowered in 4th's melee system. the gist of it was: -Parry is separated from the melee specializations, moves to its own skil...

off-hand penalties don't make any sense to begin with in the current system- there's no advantage to it besides gaining benefits of traits from a different weapon (like a shield) and there's no reason why you'd need to inflict a penalty to attacks for it when you only have the one attack to begin w...

off-hand penalties don't make any sense to begin with in the current system- there's no advantage to it besides gaining benefits of traits from a different weapon (like a shield) and there's no reason why you'd need to inflict a penalty to attacks for it when you only have the one attack to begin wi...

fluminor wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:16 am

I feel we need a better way to rule what happens when someone is using a shield to oppose a ranged attack.

everyone has felt this so far, and i've seen maybe a dozen different approaches, not including my own ideas. shields are gonna be quite the debate topic for 4th's entire run.

You've misunderstood something, but only because the talent is poorly worded. Fast hands means Bystanders do not normally get to oppose your roll. the target still gets any opposed roll, meaning you can't pick someone's pocket and be assured they won't happen to back into your hand and catch you. Ca...

Solberg wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:37 pm

Interesting read this thread... I don't understand what you gain from taking aethyric attunement more than once?

Most every talent gives you a bonus success level on a related test, in this case channeling. It makes it very easy to pass tests by huge margins after some leveling.