The Thousand Thrones (again)

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DarkLadyLumiya
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So I recently decided to run the Thousand Thrones campaign, and in the search for additional rules and story bits (originally I searched for the extra story bits the book mentioned on blackindustries.com - how foolish of me), I stumbled across both the unofficial expansions and the thread from last year here. I despair at the fact that the final three expansions were never released, as they seemed to be quite promising. I've heard tell that there is some collection of the notes that were prepared for the final expansions before work was halted. I'm curious to both see these notes and to hear tell of the process of working on these expansions and what resulted in their halting. Additionally, any further insight that could be granted into the writing of The Thousand Thrones would, if nothing else, make for an interesting read.

Finally, I wonder at what other changes people have made to the campaign to make it flow better. Skerrigan, I know you have worked on some changes in your campaign, and I would love to have a collection of all your additions (you did suggest making a TTT companion book, after all!). I could also use some advice on how to improve the final chapter, which appears to be universally agreed to be terrible.
Herr Arnulfe
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Glad to hear people are still enjoying TTT. I wrote Ch 7 (Death Do Us Part) and a sizeable portion of the Expansion 1-2 material. I was also Lead Editor of the TTT expansions. The expansion project collapsed under its own weight unfortunately. We finished nearly half of the TTT Ex 3-4 material to draft 1, but the project's complexity turned the writing team into a revolving door of contributors, and I couldn't muster the wherewithal to pick up all the pieces. At the time, Defenders of the Forest was in its early stages, and I would've had to choose one project or the other.

If you PM me your email address, I can send you the unfinished material for TTT Ex 3-4, along with a 99% finished prologue scenario called Maiden Voyage of the Gilded Drake. Eventually, the prologue scenario will be uploaded to Liber Fanatica (of which I'm the webmaster). The LF site relaunch is a project that I've been putting off for years, because I know it will involve more than just copying files over to a new template. It will require deep-diving back into the fan material world for an extended period of time (which I haven't had the appetite for in the last 5-6 years).
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Danke Dave
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The additional material for TTT really added to my own games, complete or not. Thanks for taking the time and stress to write these valuable resources.
Herr Arnulfe
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Danke Dave wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:53 pm
The additional material for TTT really added to my own games, complete or not. Thanks for taking the time and stress to write these valuable resources.
I'm very glad they were helpful. We've had almost 200 requests for unfinished TTT Ex 3-4 material, which helps to soften the remorse of having given up on the project. If each of those GMs ran a game for 4 players, that's roughly a thousand people who've benefitted from our unpublished scribblings.
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Danke Dave
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Herr Arnulfe wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:28 am
I'm very glad they were helpful. We've had almost 200 requests for unfinished TTT Ex 3-4 material, which helps to soften the remorse of having given up on the project. If each of those GMs ran a game for 4 players, that's roughly a thousand people who've benefitted from our unpublished scribblings.
They were a great find when I asked for them many years ago, expansion 2 has been a great addition to not only my TTT games, but WFRP games overall. For TTT, expansion 2 really helped me flesh out the Strigany faction as well as the Cult of Nagash subplot. I don't think my players would have been as invested as they were without the not so little splashes it adds. The Vampire's tower/Smoot was another easy sell.
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DarkLadyLumiya wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:32 pm
Finally, I wonder at what other changes people have made to the campaign to make it flow better. Skerrigan, I know you have worked on some changes in your campaign, and I would love to have a collection of all your additions (you did suggest making a TTT companion book, after all!). I could also use some advice on how to improve the final chapter, which appears to be universally agreed to be terrible.
Well, I am one of the 200 people that got and really appreciated the extra stuff from Herrn Arnulfe.

We are currently almost at the end of chapter 2 and the group has a blast. Many people in the internet, even the author himself, said skip the chapter. Maybe we are weird, but we play Warhammer since the late eighties (and 8 years DH in between), and we really like it. More than many of the overhyped adventures...

What we changed (besides 2nd ed. --> 4th ed.):

Even before Chapter 1 the PCs heard rumours about Strigany clans being on the move (first north, later east).

Chapter 1: Used all Adventure Hooks for our 5 PCs, at times overlapping, at times not. Built on these NPCs a little more from the drafts of Herr Arnulfe. I also used a further orphan and a dubious pharmacist to a degree form theses drafts.

Between Chapter 1 and 2: On the way from Marienburg I included an encounter (and fight) with Strigany Murder Cultists (from the drafts for Marienburg) at the border to the Empire and A Rough Night at Three Feathers. The PCs also travelled a day with peaceful Strigany they met months earlier (from If looks could kill) and will again meet in Chapter 3.

Chapter 2: Before encountering the Blauesblut the PCs encountered at night a certain dead and gnawed Bretonian vampire hunter they had met a few days erlier in a tavern hanging from a tree and three strigoi vampires. I used that encounter to introduce the PCs to the lingering threat of strigoi vampire in the vicinity of Pfeifeldorf and to show, that these strigoi seem to have (differing) agendas. Expansion 2 page 13 and 14 helps a lot for the adventure and I intend to use what is mentioned there and partially what is in drafts from Herr Arnulfe (but to a rather small degree).
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